diff --git a/addons/mail/static/src/js/basic_view.js b/addons/mail/static/src/js/basic_view.js
index aaaf356734b..4b7efe085af 100644
--- a/addons/mail/static/src/js/basic_view.js
+++ b/addons/mail/static/src/js/basic_view.js
@@ -8,7 +8,9 @@ const chatterFields = ["message_ids", "message_follower_ids", "activity_ids"];
 
 BasicView.include({
     init: function () {
+        this.hasChatter = false;
         this._super.apply(this, arguments);
+        this.rendererParams.hasChatter = this.hasChatter;
         const post_refresh = this._getFieldOption('message_ids', 'post_refresh', false);
         const followers_post_refresh = this._getFieldOption('message_follower_ids', 'post_refresh', false);
         this.chatterFields = {
@@ -73,6 +75,7 @@ BasicView.include({
      */
     _processNode(node, fv) {
         if (node.tag === "div" && node.attrs.class && node.attrs.class.includes("oe_chatter")) {
+            this.hasChatter = true;
             const viewType = fv.type;
             const fieldsInfo = fv.fieldsInfo[viewType];
             const fields = fv.viewFields;
diff --git a/addons/mail/static/src/widgets/form_renderer/form_renderer.js b/addons/mail/static/src/widgets/form_renderer/form_renderer.js
index e09b0a532cd..a70affd5f00 100644
--- a/addons/mail/static/src/widgets/form_renderer/form_renderer.js
+++ b/addons/mail/static/src/widgets/form_renderer/form_renderer.js
@@ -21,6 +21,7 @@ FormRenderer.include({
      */
     init(parent, state, params) {
         this._super(...arguments);
+        this.hasChatter = params.hasChatter && !params.isFromFormViewDialog;
         this.chatterFields = params.chatterFields;
         this.mailFields = params.mailFields;
         this._chatterContainerComponent = undefined;
@@ -35,15 +36,13 @@ FormRenderer.include({
          * when applying the rendering into the DOM.
          */
         this.$chatterContainerHook = undefined;
-        // Do not load chatter in form view dialogs
-        this._isFromFormViewDialog = params.isFromFormViewDialog;
     },
     /**
      * @override
      */
     _renderNode(node) {
         if (node.tag === 'div' && node.attrs.class === 'oe_chatter') {
-            if (this._isFromFormViewDialog) {
+            if (!this.hasChatter) {
                 return $('<div/>');
             }
             if (!this._chatterContainerTarget) {
@@ -64,7 +63,7 @@ FormRenderer.include({
      */
     async __renderView() {
         await this._super(...arguments);
-        if (this._hasChatter()) {
+        if (this.hasChatter) {
             if (!this._chatterContainerComponent) {
                 this._makeChatterContainerComponent();
             } else {
@@ -84,11 +83,11 @@ FormRenderer.include({
          * The chatter is detached before it's removed on the super._updateView function,
          * this is done to avoid losing the event handlers.
          */
-        if (this._hasChatter()) {
+        if (this.hasChatter) {
             this._chatterContainerTarget.remove();
         }
         this._super(...arguments);
-        if (this._hasChatter()) {
+        if (this.hasChatter) {
             this.$chatterContainerHook.replaceWith(this._chatterContainerTarget);
         }
     },
@@ -105,16 +104,6 @@ FormRenderer.include({
     // Mail Methods
     //--------------------------------------------------------------------------
 
-    /**
-     * Returns whether the form renderer has a chatter to display or not.
-     * This is based on arch, which should have `div.oe_chatter`.
-     *
-     * @private
-     * @returns {boolean}
-     */
-    _hasChatter() {
-        return !!this._chatterContainerTarget;
-    },
     /**
      * @private
      * @returns {boolean}