diff --git a/addons/web/static/src/views/kanban/kanban_renderer.js b/addons/web/static/src/views/kanban/kanban_renderer.js
index 686fb6739b7..018df770d15 100644
--- a/addons/web/static/src/views/kanban/kanban_renderer.js
+++ b/addons/web/static/src/views/kanban/kanban_renderer.js
@@ -226,12 +226,13 @@ export class KanbanRenderer extends Component {
             return true;
         }
         if (isGrouped) {
-            if (!this.state.columnQuickCreateIsFolded) {
+            if (this.canCreateGroup() && !this.state.columnQuickCreateIsFolded) {
                 return false;
             }
             if (groups.length === 0) {
-                return true;
+                return !this.props.list.groupedBy("m2o");
             }
+            return this.props.list.records.length === 0;
         }
         return !model.hasData();
     }
diff --git a/addons/web/static/src/views/kanban/kanban_renderer.xml b/addons/web/static/src/views/kanban/kanban_renderer.xml
index 6724ff12ba9..7c5dc17fbe3 100644
--- a/addons/web/static/src/views/kanban/kanban_renderer.xml
+++ b/addons/web/static/src/views/kanban/kanban_renderer.xml
@@ -143,24 +143,24 @@
                         exampleData="exampleData"
                         groupByFieldString="props.list.groupByField.string"
                     />
-                </t>
-                <!-- Kanban Example Background -->
-                <div t-if="props.list.groups.length === 0" class="o_kanban_example_background_container d-flex opacity-50">
-                    <div class="o_kanban_example_background flex-grow-1">
-                        <div class="o_kanban_examples d-flex p-2">
-                            <div t-foreach="ghostColumns" t-as="column" t-key="column" class="o_kanban_examples_group flex-grow-1 m-3">
-                                <h6><b t-esc="column.name"/></h6>
-                                <div t-foreach="column.cards" t-as="card" t-key="card_index" class="o_kanban_examples_ghost d-flex flex-wrap justify-content-between mb-3 p-2 border bg-white">
-                                    <div class="o_ghost_content w-100 pb-3 bg-300"/>
-                                    <div class="o_ghost_content o_ghost_tag d-inline-block w-50 mt-3 pb-3 bg-300"/>
-                                    <span class="mt-2 rounded-circle bg-300">
-                                        <img class="o_ghost_avatar" src="/base/static/img/avatar.png" alt="Avatar"/>
-                                    </span>
+                    <!-- Kanban Example Background -->
+                    <div t-if="props.list.groups.length === 0" class="o_kanban_example_background_container d-flex opacity-50">
+                        <div class="o_kanban_example_background flex-grow-1">
+                            <div class="o_kanban_examples d-flex p-2">
+                                <div t-foreach="ghostColumns" t-as="column" t-key="column" class="o_kanban_examples_group flex-grow-1 m-3">
+                                    <h6><b t-esc="column.name"/></h6>
+                                    <div t-foreach="column.cards" t-as="card" t-key="card_index" class="o_kanban_examples_ghost d-flex flex-wrap justify-content-between mb-3 p-2 border bg-white">
+                                        <div class="o_ghost_content w-100 pb-3 bg-300"/>
+                                        <div class="o_ghost_content o_ghost_tag d-inline-block w-50 mt-3 pb-3 bg-300"/>
+                                        <span class="mt-2 rounded-circle bg-300">
+                                            <img class="o_ghost_avatar" src="/base/static/img/avatar.png" alt="Avatar"/>
+                                        </span>
+                                    </div>
                                 </div>
                             </div>
                         </div>
                     </div>
-                </div>
+                </t>
             </t>
             <t t-else="">
                 <!-- kanban ghost cards are used to properly space last elements. -->
diff --git a/addons/web/static/tests/views/kanban_view_tests.js b/addons/web/static/tests/views/kanban_view_tests.js
index 3d21ddd70c3..5ed34007dc7 100644
--- a/addons/web/static/tests/views/kanban_view_tests.js
+++ b/addons/web/static/tests/views/kanban_view_tests.js
@@ -6272,7 +6272,7 @@ QUnit.module("Views", (hooks) => {
     );
 
     QUnit.test(
-        "nocontent helper for grouped kanban with no records with no group_create",
+        "nocontent helper for grouped kanban (on m2o field) with no records with no group_create",
         async (assert) => {
             serverData.models.partner.records = [];
 
@@ -6305,6 +6305,35 @@ QUnit.module("Views", (hooks) => {
         }
     );
 
+    QUnit.test(
+        "nocontent helper for grouped kanban (on date field) with no records with no group_create",
+        async (assert) => {
+            serverData.models.partner.records = [];
+
+            await makeView({
+                type: "kanban",
+                resModel: "partner",
+                serverData,
+                arch: `
+                    <kanban group_create="false">
+                        <templates>
+                            <t t-name="kanban-box">
+                                <div><field name="foo"/></div>
+                            </t>
+                        </templates>
+                    </kanban>`,
+                groupBy: ["date"],
+                noContentHelp: "No content helper",
+            });
+
+            assert.containsNone(target, ".o_kanban_group");
+            assert.containsNone(target, ".o_kanban_record");
+            assert.containsOnce(target, ".o_view_nocontent");
+            assert.containsNone(target, ".o_column_quick_create");
+            assert.containsNone(target, ".o_kanban_example_background");
+        }
+    );
+
     QUnit.test("empty grouped kanban with sample data and no columns", async (assert) => {
         serverData.models.partner.records = [];