diff --git a/addons/mail/static/src/widgets/form_renderer/form_renderer.js b/addons/mail/static/src/widgets/form_renderer/form_renderer.js
index 86fef09c235..89868f8ee16 100644
--- a/addons/mail/static/src/widgets/form_renderer/form_renderer.js
+++ b/addons/mail/static/src/widgets/form_renderer/form_renderer.js
@@ -27,6 +27,12 @@ FormRenderer.include({
          * This is set when arch contains `div.oe_chatter`.
          */
         this._chatterContainerTarget = undefined;
+        /**
+         * This jQuery element will be set when rendering the form view, and
+         * used as a hook to insert the ChatterContainer in the right place,
+         * when applying the rendering into the DOM.
+         */
+        this.$chatterContainerHook = undefined;
         // Do not load chatter in form view dialogs
         this._isFromFormViewDialog = params.isFromFormViewDialog;
     },
@@ -105,12 +111,12 @@ FormRenderer.include({
      * @returns {jQuery.Element}
      */
     _makeChatterContainerTarget() {
-        if (this._chatterContainerTarget) {
-            return $(this._chatterContainerTarget);
+        if (!this._chatterContainerTarget) {
+            this._chatterContainerTarget = document.createElement("div");
+            this._chatterContainerTarget.classList.add("o_FormRenderer_chatterContainer");
         }
-        const $el = $('<div class="o_FormRenderer_chatterContainer"/>');
-        this._chatterContainerTarget = $el[0];
-        return $el;
+        this.$chatterContainerHook = $('<div class="o_FormRenderer_chatterContainer"/>');
+        return this.$chatterContainerHook;
     },
     /**
      * Mount the chatter
@@ -142,6 +148,18 @@ FormRenderer.include({
         }
         return this._super(...arguments);
     },
+    /**
+     * The last rendering of the form view has just been applied into the DOM,
+     * so we replace our chatter container hook by the actual chatter container.
+     *
+     * @override
+     */
+    _updateView() {
+        this._super(...arguments);
+        if (this._hasChatter()) {
+            this.$chatterContainerHook.replaceWith(this._chatterContainerTarget);
+        }
+    },
     /**
      * Overrides the function to render the chatter once the form view is
      * rendered.
diff --git a/addons/mail/static/src/widgets/form_renderer/tests/form_renderer_tests.js b/addons/mail/static/src/widgets/form_renderer/tests/form_renderer_tests.js
index de5e5d94d25..69a9ca1b570 100644
--- a/addons/mail/static/src/widgets/form_renderer/tests/form_renderer_tests.js
+++ b/addons/mail/static/src/widgets/form_renderer/tests/form_renderer_tests.js
@@ -10,8 +10,10 @@ import {
 } from '@mail/utils/test_utils';
 
 import config from 'web.config';
+import fieldRegistry from 'web.field_registry';
 import FormView from 'web.FormView';
-import { dom } from 'web.test_utils';
+import { dom, nextTick } from 'web.test_utils';
+import { registerCleanup } from "@web/../tests/helpers/cleanup";
 
 const { triggerEvent } = dom;
 
@@ -1048,6 +1050,68 @@ QUnit.test('[TECHNICAL] unfolded read more/less links should not fold on message
     );
 });
 
+QUnit.test('chatter does not flicker when the form view is re-rendered', async function (assert) {
+    this.data['res.partner'].records.push(
+        { display_name: "first partner", id: 11 },
+        { display_name: "second partner", id: 12 }
+    );
+
+    // define an asynchronous field and use it in the form to ease testing
+    let def;
+    const FieldChar = fieldRegistry.get("char");
+    const AsyncWidget = FieldChar.extend({
+        willStart() {
+            return Promise.resolve(def);
+        },
+    });
+    fieldRegistry.add("async_widget", AsyncWidget);
+    registerCleanup(() => {
+        delete fieldRegistry.map.async_widget;
+    });
+
+    await this.createView({
+        data: this.data,
+        hasView: true,
+        // View params
+        View: FormView,
+        model: 'res.partner',
+        arch: `
+            <form>
+                <sheet>
+                    <field name="name" widget="async_widget"/>
+                </sheet>
+                <div class="oe_chatter"></div>
+            </form>
+        `,
+        viewOptions: {
+            currentId: 11,
+            ids: [11, 12],
+        },
+    });
+    assert.strictEqual(
+        document.querySelectorAll(`.o_Chatter`).length,
+        1,
+        "there should be a chatter"
+    );
+    def = makeDeferred();
+    document.querySelector('.o_pager_next').click();
+    await nextTick();
+
+    assert.strictEqual(
+        document.querySelectorAll(`.o_Chatter`).length,
+        1,
+        "there should be a chatter"
+    );
+    def.resolve();
+    await nextTick();
+
+    assert.strictEqual(
+        document.querySelectorAll(`.o_Chatter`).length,
+        1,
+        "there should be a chatter"
+    );
+});
+
 });
 });
 });
diff --git a/addons/project/static/src/project_sharing/views/form/renderer.js b/addons/project/static/src/project_sharing/views/form/renderer.js
index f4acf457a66..614bb776f3a 100644
--- a/addons/project/static/src/project_sharing/views/form/renderer.js
+++ b/addons/project/static/src/project_sharing/views/form/renderer.js
@@ -25,30 +25,7 @@ export default FormRenderer.extend({
             project_sharing_id: session.project_id,
         };
     },
-    _makeChatterContainerTarget() {
-        const $el = $('<div class="o_FormRenderer_chatterContainer"/>');
-        this._chatterContainerTarget = $el[0];
-        return $el;
-    },
     _mountChatterContainerComponent() {
         this._chatterContainerComponent.appendTo(this._chatterContainerTarget);
     },
-    _renderNode(node) {
-        if (node.tag === 'div' && node.attrs.class === 'oe_project_sharing_chatter') {
-            let isVisible = true;
-            if (node.attrs.modifiers && node.attrs.modifiers.invisible) {
-                const record = this._getRecord(this.state.id);
-                if (record) {
-                    isVisible = !record.evalModifiers(node.attrs.modifiers).invisible;
-                }
-            }
-            if (isVisible) {
-                if (this._isFromFormViewDialog) {
-                    return $('<div/>');
-                }
-                return this._makeChatterContainerTarget();
-            }
-        }
-        return this._super(...arguments);
-    },
 });